Ragen’s Elite Eating Disorder and the Rise of Dances with Fat

This post is written in a mocking tone. We want to emphasize that at Dances with Facts, we fully recognize that genuine eating disorders are a serious issue and absolutely do not merit any kind of shame or stigma. As usual for Ragen, her over the top account of her “eating disorder” simply cannot be taken seriously when the facts are examined. Every detail in this post is confirmed through multiple sources as something Ragen herself actually claimed, including interviews and posts from her old Livejournal accounts. We’ve taken the unusual step of adding an extensive list of sources at the end of the post for our readers to check out for themselves, since some of the claims are so completely outrageous. -IFC


As a child, Ragen was “always kind of a chubby kid and a bigger kid”. In a 2013 interview, she claims her baseball coach father criticized her weight throughout her childhood and constantly made fun of her for trying to participate in any physical activities. This is the man she described in a newspaper article at age 9 as her “hero”. Somehow little Ragen managed to persevere though her hero father’s fat shaming and participate beyond a recreational level (“competitive”, “all-state”, etc.) in an incredibly extensive list of athletics. This list doesn’t even include her claimed non-athletic endeavours and achievements like choirs, bands, musical theatre, being a national merit scholar, teaching elementary school music classes, her class valedictorian, her perfect GPA, professional-level clarinet soloist as well as three other instruments at the state competition level, etc.

  • ballet
  • jazz dance
  • horse riding
  • competitive figure skating
  • daily weight training and cardio starting at age 12
  • volleyball
  • soccer
  • baseball
  • gymnastics
  • cheerleading captain
  • drill team
  • “all-state athlete” for all six years of high school
  • lifeguard every year and “always won the annual lifeguard races”

An Elite Eating Disorder

By high school, Ragen was just barely overweight at “150 lbs”. Of course she never suffered from any bullying about her weight because she lived in small towns and was “always well-liked and popular” and highly respected for being such a talented athlete and scholar. She claims people continued to tell her to lose weight as they were “freaked out” because she was “really muscular” and could “bench press a huge amount of weight”. This was apparently no big deal until she was pulled aside by a relative at age 17 and told to lose weight before starting college.

Ragen set out with a goal weight of 120 lbs. To accomplish this, she developed her own personal eating disorder and started exercising for “8-10 hours” every single day while eating only 1100 calories. If she ate even a single extra calorie she “freaked out” added another one or two hours of exercise. She claims she maintained this weight loss regimen for three years, continuing to spend 8-10 hours at the gym every day while maintaining a full course load at college. Time availability aside, one would assume that like any normal person with a restrictive eating disorder and exercise compulsion, she quickly became dangerously malnourished and emaciated. Women with anorexia nervosa often have excessively low body fat levels because of their extremely low body weights from extended periods of food restriction1.

Fortunately Ragen is no mere mortal, and instead she somehow completely stopped losing weight after only 15 lbs, then developed the “7-9% body fat” physique of a world champion competitive bodybuilder on an extreme cut who is heavily abusing anabolic steroids. In more recent retellings she is extremely loose with the details, giving her weight as anything from 135 to 145 lbs, changing her body fat to “9%” or “under 10%”, and significantly lowering her height (she now claims she grew 3″ after age 20). Of course, all that does is make the body fat claim all the more absurd. Throughout the length of Ragen’s eating disorder, she somehow remained at a healthy weight or overweight with a daily deficit of several thousand calories for three years. Ragen never does anything by halves; she didn’t just have an eating disorder, she had an elite eating disorder.

Ragen claims she was significantly leaner and more muscular than all three of these women during the three years of her eating disorder from age 17-20.

Unfortunately Ragen was not able to keep up with her magic eating disorder weight loss regimen, and after three years she eventually collapsed on the gym treadmill “in the most dramatic fashion” and was hospitalized. She claims that while her doctors were “treating all the stress fractures” they put her on a diet because they thought the utterly ripped bodybuilder they were treating was still too fat. This somehow lead to her gaining 50 lbs in a single month, and a further 50 lbs over the next few months, because she had “tanked her metabolism”. This is another part of the story Ragen can’t keep consistent; in 2009 she claimed she was treated for her eating disorder and “ballooned” before she entered college, and as of just last week she was claiming her eating disorder went undiagnosed until well into college. Which is it, Ragen?

The Diet Excuses

In the previously mentioned 2013 interview, Ragen tells the interviewer she then spent a few years trying a number of diet plans, including Jenny Craig, Medifast, Quick Weight Loss Center, and various attempts at lifestyle changes and other eating plans; somehow she mysteriously kept gaining weight through these “extensions of her eating disorder”. She then relates a story she has told on many occasions about checking into an inpatient VLCD weight loss program, where she ate 800 calories/day and still gained a pound every week (because they refused to let her exercise). When she tried to quit the program, they took her into a room and showed her binders of fat women to fat shame her. In this moment Ragen now says she decided she would stop trying to lose weight and instead love herself and fully commit to body positivity.

A Strong Commitment to Body Positivity

From 2002, we can document Ragen’s weight loss attempts in more detail thanks to her Livejournal posts. By then, she was showing her strong commitment to body positivity by peddling Advocare to her friends. She was somehow at her lowest ever post-college weight of around 225 lbs, but completely credited the weight loss product she was selling for her success. This was short-lived, and by 2003 she was back up to 270 lbs and trying yet another diet. Here we see some of her more notable weight loss claims, like the specifics of her elite eating disorder, the fact that she can’t lose weight eating only 1000 calories/day and exercising for 20+ hours/week, and most notably an inadvertent admission of why she really can’t lose weight: because she doesn’t stick to diets. The last part is prophetic since she quit Atkins only four days later.

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By late 2003, Ragen had aspirations to become a competitive dancer, and she recognized that 270 lbs was not a realistic weight, despite her commitment to body positivity and not losing weight. She came up with a four month plan to lose 32 lbs and improve her fitness. The running goals tie in with the numerous times she talked about signing up for running events and then never bothered to actually train or even register (see Ragen the Athletics Dropout).

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Ragen’s friends helpfully chimed in telling her that 270 lbs is a perfectly acceptable weight for a world-class competitive dancer.


In August 2004, Ragen was still attempting to lose weight, but had found a new excuse to blame for all her past failures: a mysterious wheat allergy. She celebrated this discovery by having a Mountain Dew and reluctantly choking down some gluten-free chocolate chip cookies. The wheat allergy was never mentioned again, and Ragen clearly has no issues with gluten.


By the end of 2004, Ragen still hadn’t lost any weight. She was starting to question whether she even wanted to lose weight (that pre-2002 commitment seems to have been forgotten). She admitted again that she couldn’t keep her diet under control, and she bemoaned the fact that obesity and competitive dancing are mutually exclusive. Because body positivity.

Lately I’ve been questioning if I even want to leose [sic] weight. I am, in reality, quite happy with myself and my abilities. I’ve been having trouble getting the motivatino [sic] to diet. The exercise is no problem…I love to exercise but the diet has been a huge issue.

What I realized tonight was that, truth, be told, I’m too tired to continue being fat. I am tired to exhaustion of having to compensate for my weight. […] Dancing does not adapt to larger bodies.

An Amazing Life Experience

In early 2005, Ragen posted a food and exercise log as evidence she was still attempting to lose weight. At the end of the year she had an “amazing life experience” with a therapist and decided to give up on weight loss forever for the second time and pursue her dream of becoming a top-flight champion professional dancer (spoiler: she didn’t manage to stick with either goal).


The “amazing life experience” was only a week before the famous spaghetti straps judge story, another important moment in Ragen’s life she specifically describes as the start of her fat activist career in the 2014 PBS short documentary Ragen’s MORE Cabaret.

“…in that moment, I realized if I want to be a fat dancer, I’m going to have to be a fat activist to get it done.”

Through 2006-2007, Ragen was performing lots of fat activism by still trying to lose weight. She gained 35 lbs during rehab for an ankle injury sustained in her final “national dance championship” appearance. She had several arguments with her dance teacher because he didn’t notice a minor weight loss and was trying to get her to try dance moves she was too heavy to perform. This culminated in some major fat activism in the form of public crying and triggering.



Ragen continued to go through the motions of “dieting”, again recognizing she had no chance to compete in dancing above the lowest newbie levels as an obese person. In June 2007 she had just started a new diet and was excited about her dance teacher noticing. This is the last time she ever specifically states she intentionally lost weight, at least five years after she now claims she committed to body positivity and not losing any more weight, and two years after she “became a fat activist”.

I had a lesson with DancingQueen (my dance teacher). […] He noticed how much weight I’d lost (17 pounds last week alone!).

The Trained Researcher

In July 2007 Ragen put on her “trained researcher” fat activist hat and did some research about weight loss and obesity. She “discovered” that 98% of diets fail, that most weight gain can be attributed to depression, and that most of the health issues associated with obesity are actually caused by fat shaming. She also had some interesting thoughts about personal responsibility with respect to body weight.

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In 2009 she “declared war on the war on obesity”, found Health at Every Size, and crowdfunded her very first fat moneymaking scheme.



In late 2009, Ragen wrote the seminal Dances with Fat post So My Doctor Tried to Kill Me, about the “fat shaming” doctor her acupuncturist referred her to for blood tests (fun fact: Ragen learned intuitive eating from her chiropractor). Within two years she had “retired” from her disastrous turnaround CEO position and become a professional fat blogger and speaker.

The Post-diet Years

In recent years, Ragen has claimed she mostly eats “whole foods” and cooks “simple foods” like “chicken with salad and steamed veggies”. She gets “five servings of fruits and vegetables a day” and “makes healthy choices”. Some of her healthy choices include copious amounts of cereal, Chinese takeout, McDonald’s, eggs Benedict, and of course daily Mountain Dew. As part of her HAES “activism”, she won’t eat any food with “diet” in the name or that is otherwise marketed as assisting with weight loss in any way. She says her eating disorder made her a “virtual calorie calculator” who knows exactly how much she eats every day without tracking, and “the number of calories that I eat should lead to weight loss but they don’ [sic]”.

Ragen’s “eating disorder” and weight loss history paint a picture of a person who is totally unable to control her eating habits and grasping at straws at every opportunity. She blames things like a “wheat allergy”, “carbohydrate intolerance”, not being allowed to exercise for short periods, and what amounts to magic for her failure to lose weight on ludicrously low calorie intakes. All the while she regularly admits she can’t stick to diets and her eating is out of control. Even when she actually does manage to lose weight, she credits the weight loss supplement she was taking rather than her own efforts to manage her diet. Her account of her eating disorder is quite possibly the most outrageously absurd thing she has ever written. It smacks of her usual storytelling technique of doing a quick Google search (e.g. “low body fat for a woman”) and rolling with the results. She can’t even keep the facts straight in retellings, regularly changing the numbers of what is supposedly the most important event in her life. Her extensive experience with commercial weight loss products makes it very obvious why she is constantly ranting about the “sixty billion dollar a year weight loss industry” (that she herself was part of) and their supposed conspiracy against fat people.

After 20 years of refusing to accept responsibility for her own failures, Ragen found the perfect excuse to simply stop trying in the form of fat acceptance and HAES. She saw an opportunity to monetize it, and in short order she was sanitizing old blog posts, altering details of personal stories to suit her needs, and re-interpreting and re-imagining her past motivations to portray herself as a more sympathetic character. She continued her “research” and now represents herself as an expert on obesity while doling out harmful medical advice and deadly pseudoscience. She portrays herself as a “national dance champion”, “marathoner”, “future IRONMAN” and so on and pretends her weight doesn’t affect her health or athletic abilities, despite all current and past evidence to the contrary. This Dances with Facts post is Ragen’s real story. She isn’t a person who deserves admiration for overcoming adversity and discovering the ability to love herself; she simply spent 20 years with her fingers in her ears until her personal failings aligned with her financial interests.

We close with a quote from a 2009 radio interview that sums up everything nicely.

Interviewer: “Do you eat a huge amount of food?”

Ragen: “I do not.”

Interviewer: [incredulous] “Do you eat more than your body’s basic needs? … If you’re eating a normal amount of food, presumably you wouldn’t weigh 280 pounds.”

Ragen: “Well if I was exercising 8 hours a day and eating 1100 calories presumably I would have been [less] than 135 pounds.”

Ragen: “My body does what it does.”










32 thoughts on “Ragen’s Elite Eating Disorder and the Rise of Dances with Fat

  1. She’s an elite trained researcher who can’t even spell the word “stomach” correctly. Hilarious.

    I also really enjoy the part where she complains about eating gluten free cookies as a snack like someone is forcing her. You can just not eat cookies, Ragen.

  2. We need to crowdfund a secret eaters style challenge for her. We could raise a bunch of money and set the rules so that her claimed exercise and diet are followed (and verified) for two weeks. If she stays the same or gains weight she wins the money and gets the proof that her body “does what it does”. If she loses weight she has to get off the internet. She has to know she would lose, but it’d be a lot of fun having a huge pot of money hanging out there that she’s unwilling to try to win.

    • ” If she stays the same or gains weight she wins the money and gets the proof that her body “does what it does”. ”

      Along with a Nobel Prize for proving the laws of thermodynamics wrong. And there’s a million bucks or so.

  3. This is an excellent summary. Thank you for the work of putting it together. For many of us, it’s just about the amusement, sometimes anger, at watching Ragen do what she does. But the truth is that there are people out there who don’t know how to lose weight and badly want to, but are so down about it that they may be vulnerable to her bullshit. By keeping this blog, it’s possible that some who are intrigued by her may be deterred from her ways and saved. Keep up the good work.

    • Thank you — I’ve been keeping notes on this for a long time and I’m really glad so many people took the time to read through such a long post. I don’t think anyone in Ragen’s inner circle will care, but the goal of the blog is to ensure anyone coming across Ragen for the first time has a resource available to them right there in the top search results.

      My problem with all this is that she’s trivializing genuine eating disorders as well as weight loss in general, and preying on people’s insecurities for her own financial gain. If someone struggling with weight loss sees Ragen claiming she spent years with a severe eating disorder, tried every weight loss method available, and exercises for several hours every day yet still weighs 300 pounds, why should they even bother at that point? And furthermore, she is supposedly a national champion dancer, marathoner, triathlete, professional elite athlete, is in perfect health with perfect bloodwork, etc. And she is an expert trained researcher who has discovered everything doctors and scientists say about obesity being unhealthy is completely untrue.

      The whole thing is a manufactured persona created by Ragen to excuse her own failings and line her pockets with money from blog donations and speaking engagements. It’s in Ragen’s interests for her audience to be fat and stay fat. Remember she even tries to say health and mortality is mostly dictated by fitness level while constantly complaining about how awful exercise is and discouraging her readers from participating. It’s absolutely shocking anyone takes her seriously.

  4. Good post. One thing I noticed, straightaway, looking at her food log- she is massively overestimating calories burned from exercise. It’s unlikely she burned 400 calories from 30 minutes of circuit training- that is near impossible. Then a 15 minute walk which burned 120 calories? I’ve never heard of walking burning that many calories. I see a lot of this on myfitnesspal- people over-relying on burning inflated calories through exercise which they then eat back, leading to plateauing or even weight gain. It’s not a good idea to rely on burning calories through exercise to lose large amounts of weight, and Ragen is making this classic mistake. There is no way she burned 970 calories through exercise, and this is probably a mistake she is making repeatedly, leading to her being unable to lose weight.

    • She doesn’t want to lose weight. Yes, her math is constantly off (way off); yes, charts and devices massively overstate caloric burn and understate calories in foods (as do people who don’t measure accurately or track truthfully)….but that’s kind of a moot point. Ragen insists that her current weight is fine and healthy and she is not interested in losing weight.

      • She insists her weight is fine, but has no idea how much she weighs. She refuses to weigh herself.

  5. God bless you for the good work that you do! When I read it all laid out like this, Ragen’s claims seem so utterly ridiculous that I have such a hard time believing anyone actually could believe her, let alone admire her. Yet they do and I feel sorry for each and every one of her misguided followers. How miserable do you have to be with yourself & the truth of your situation to blindly follow a snake-oil salesman, if that means that you somehow feel validated?

    I for one appreciate the time and effort you put into spreading the truth!

  6. It’s very telling that in her “Rage” post about her instructor changing the choreography, she mentions that she’s injured and dancing thru the pain.

    She’s more injury-prone because of her weight but she thinks that’s OK just because she feels shaggable? Yeah, right.

    Also, what are the odds the instructor simplified the choreography because he didn’t want Regan to hurt herself again?

    • In that 2009 radio interview, the interviewer actually asks whether her weight puts her at greater risk of injury from dancing. Ragen says “thin dancers” are all constantly wearing medical braces and claims her extreme muscularity somehow “balances out” her weight and prevents injuries.

  7. Well, if she’s actually extremely muscular she should get a DEXA scan and prove it.

    @Ironfactchecker Your post clearly shows why you are targeting Ragen. I have to say, I partly agree with you, but as a fat person, I don’t think her inaccurate statements are actually any worse than the zillions of stuff on the Internet that say “just eat 1200 to 1500 calories a day, get some moderate exercise and you’ll lose 1-2 pounds a week. Count everything you eat” etc.

    It’s simply not true. Subjecting someone to this regime when she is, say, in prison and unable to go off it, might well work. But as a “strategy” for long term weight loss it works extremely rarely for very obese people. The reasons are a combination of psychological and physical, but the bottom line is that advice simply isn’t working and I think it works so infrequently that it isn’t the person’s ‘fault’ that it doesn’t. I think, quite frankly, this advice works so infrequently that it is as dangerous as Ragen’s opposite-spectrum bad advice.

    What should we tell people? I think the most responsible advice based on current knowledge is to change your habits gradually. Don’t count calories and go on a diet that feels like deprivation that you know you can’t keep up. Just make one or two small changes, then when they feel like habit and no longer feel like deprivation, make another one or two, etc. Consider every change to be for life–not just for your “diet.” And if you are very obese, set modest goals at least at first ie. 10% of your body weight. Recognize that maintenance, not losing, is the hard part, and focus on making permanent changes that are livable for you rather than on a specific number.

    The other sound advice one can give is to actually read stories of people who have lost it and kept it off. They are available in the book Thin for Life by Anne Fletcher. Someone also wrote a great book based on the the National Weight Control Registry, but I forgot the name of it. Ignore ALL stories of people who recently lost the weight , since those are completely useless and Irrelevant….there are a zillion people who have lost weight, but they are not successes in the slightest…they will probably gain it back, plus more and end up with less muscle than previously, setting themselves up for an even harder battle next time. Take advice ONLY from people who kept it off, and since you probably don’t know anyone (statistically speaking) read one of the books that has interviewed these people in depth.

    • If you are obese your TDEE is going to be pretty high. You don’t have to drop to 1k/cal a day. You can just stop having your sugar filled coffee and make progress. It is a gradual process. When you hit a plateau re-evaluate your TDEE and remove some other calorie dense item from your diet.

  8. You can just stop having your sugar filled coffee and make progress. It is a gradual process.

    Exactly. Sadly, this isn’t “sexy” so we don’t hear about it much. Instead we hear if we only do xxx or yyy we’ll be thin, fairly quickly, and have a hard, sculpted perfect body.

    Just one example: I am a bicyclist and I subscribe to Bicycling magazine, which seems to have put me on a list to regularly receive breathless missives about how I can “bike off your belly, butt and thighs.” At least a dozen times over just a few months, I’ve gotten a newsflash that Jason” biked off 55 pounds in seven months.

    Well, that’s really very nice for Jason, but I question what universe that’s in. I presume if you click the link, you find out Jason also cut his calories, by a lot. I’ve been biking seriously for about nine years, very intensely for the past three, and the weight loss benefits are minimal, a few pounds during a long, intense season only–and unfortunately, not specifically off of the belly butt and thighs.

    Biking has enormous rewards for health, well-being, joy in life…but sadly they seem to think Jason’s butt and thighs is the only thing that is going to sell magazines.

    My point here is that, while pointing out the logical fallacies and hypocrisy in Ragan’s posts, we must not lose sight of the reason there is a market for Ragan at all.

  9. […] [In reality, Ragen injured herself badly in 2005, spent several years struggling with her weight affecting her ability to dance, had several huge arguments with her dancing coach about her weight. She discovered HAES in 2009 and gave up on competitive dancing after failing to advance past non-competitive and newbie levels. Ragen’s Elite Eating Disorder and the Rise of Dances with Fat] […]

  10. Belittling serious eating disorders? Do you not think maybe she has had one? Scoffing all those cookies looks like BED to me. I’ve suffered BED since early childhood. No obvious cause for it though possibly PCOS PTSD and personality disorders made it worse. It is as real as bulimia. Just no vomiting afterwards. Aside from that though very similar except binges aren’t always just frantic cramming in food when severely distressed as in bulimia but also in BED they can be hour long periods of grazing when anxious bored stressed or even when moods are fine just because food is there. Like climbing a mountain because it is there. I only have to see chocolate to risk a binge. Grocery shopping is a nightmare and a hideous pleasure all rolled into one. I’m not a psychiarist so can’t diagnose Ragen but it is a possibilty. You don’t get to almost 300 pounds outside of a physical condition if you are emotionally well. And a verbally abusive father (I had one as well) will often trigger PTSD depression anxiety issues which mean one turns to food. He was her hero? Maybe he was. Trauma bonding? Many abuse survivors love the abuser especially if the abuser wasn’t horrible all the time (which is actually true in most cases especially with verbal abuse which tends to be a Jekyll/hyde situation). I am not saying Ragen is truthful about everything but please try and consider that maybe some things on her blogs don’t completely contradict themselves? And why do people hate her anyway? Lots of slim people lie everyday and few blogs are made targeting hate at them? People call Ragen a narcissist but that is a mental condition. Hating on NPDs is like hating on people with Bipolar or ADHD

    • I have no idea whether Ragen has BED. She strongly denies it and has written several times about being outraged when it was suggested to her. Her high school and college “eating disorder” was clearly not BED. She claims it was “anorexia and compulsive exercise”. Her description of maintaining a professional bodybuilder physique on a massive calorie deficit for years is clearly not within the realm of possibility and makes the entire thing totally ludicrous.

      I’m sorry you have BED, but nobody is writing a blog about you because you aren’t making a career out of telling everyone obesity is healthy and weight loss is impossible. People dislike Ragen because she is a compulsive liar spreading a dangerous message.

  11. I’m a Christian and yes lying and bending facts is despicable and Ragen is wrong when and if she does that. However, I suspect a lot of this blog is based on wanting to make a fat person with a possible mental /eating/glandular issue look ridiculous. Maybe she stretches the truth about her athletic acheivements. Shame on her for that. BUT! She has a go. She may eat badly but she is at least exercising her body. Many thin people eat just as badly and take no exercise. They probably won’t live as long as Ragen most likely will. Or maybe they will live the same but not longer unless they are very blessed or have good genes

  12. I don’t believe fat is healthy or should be accepted as healthy but I don’t see why thin people with unhealthy lifestyles aren’t warned or criticised or shamed the way fat people are. I’m not saying they should be- I don’t believe anyone should have nasty blogs written about them due to what they eat- but I think it is odd how fat people are demonised no matter how hard we try whilst a normal sized or skinny person can sit on their bum all day eating KFC and haribo, smoking and drinking coke all day and not get yelled at or called names for it in the streets and fat people often are. Both will have the same (depending on genetics and social income) lifespan and risk of heart attacks and strokes later on in middle age.

    • Almost nothing on this blog has anything to do with what Ragen eats. This post is specifically about revealing the true details of her supposed “eating disorder” and her history of failed weight loss attempts, in contrast with her later sanitized and dramatized version of events. Ragen writes prolifically on why it’s impossible to lose weight without ever acknowledging that she simply overeats.

  13. “This is the man she described in a newspaper article at age 9 as her “hero”.”

    I hate Ragen, but I don’t think this is a legitimate criticism. It’s more common than not for children to idolize their parents even if they’re abusers. I know I would have described my own dad in such loving terms until I hit 18, went away to college, and sort of “woke up” to the fact that being beaten every weekend wasn’t normal. Cognitive dissonance and dissociation are scary things.

    • Ragen has never described her dad as an abuser. As with everything she says, it’s almost impossible to tell what is the truth, but she only ever mentions him when she wants to highlight some hardship she has endured or throw him under a bus. He was so unpleasant he was fired from every job and forced the family to move around frequently. As a child she had to endure constant fat shaming from him even though she was the most successful athlete and scholar in the entire state. Anything he has ever said in an interview is a lie. And so on.

      In the 2002 Ragen version of events, she was a daddy’s girl until age 3, then for the next 15 years they fought with each other. She went away to college and didn’t speak to him for 5 years, then he visited her in Austin and she ripped into him so badly they didn’t speak again for another 2 years until he contacted her in 2002. That’s the last time she has ever mentioned speaking to him other than a mysterious family emergency in 2009. Meanwhile we have a newspaper article of her at age 9 beaming into the camera and saying he’s her hero. What’s the truth? Who knows.

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